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now tonight this episode of fans of

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monsters radio we present paranormal

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experience or Alice Jackson an

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investigator John Bullard the uh the

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documentary film the house in between

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and the subsequent follow-up release

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detailed Alice's personal ordeal in

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which her uh Mississippi Dream Home

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turned into a nightmare after a

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life-changing Supernatural incident

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Alice refused to spend another night in

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her house unless someone proved to her

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that what she had experienced had

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natural explanation to it so uh

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paranormal investigator John Buller was

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part of the initial team that started

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looking for answers

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after many years director Steve

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consalves and uh Kendall Wilton Headed

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to Mississippi with their camera crew to

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document the real life effects of a

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homeowner's mission to get her house

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back from this terrifying nightmare

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now the approach was much like a

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detective chasing down leads and

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connecting the dots uh with no stone

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left unturned mindset utilizing real

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scientific data via

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physicists field experts in deep act

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accurate research the uh the filmmakers

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were also adamant about the film crew

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being very experienced in the field of

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paranormal research because of the sense

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of the nature of this case

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the director's hand selected each film

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crew member not only for their

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respective production expertise but also

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for their dedication

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do the documentation of a real

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paranormal research

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and Vincent's going to be joining me

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tonight he kind of put this all together

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so he's going to be helping me as a

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co-host this evening you know and look

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look forward to Vince's

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show on uh fans of monsters radio as

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well so uh

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so Allison John thanks for coming in

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let me ask you Alice kind of give us a

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thumbnail of how all this started well

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how you you know you spilled the house

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uh you're on the property and when did

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things start going haywire I mean when

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did you start noticing things

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when we were building the house the

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things that were the building supplies

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would come up missing and I remember the

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builders told us that we were going to

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have to start locking it up somewhere

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because of the things they needed were

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missing and then in a day or two they

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would come back and I remember one time

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it was just a piece of wood a cut piece

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of wood which you know it seems hard to

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understand that but it happened and then

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one was a tape measure I remember and

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then a few days it would come back and

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then when they built the house and they

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put the doors on the house the doors

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would just slam even with the deadbolts

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you know they've got manipulated which

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they did get manipulated through the

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through the years but uh anything

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electrical they put the uh doorbell in

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and it rang and uh we had objects that

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moved once the house got built but we

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had objects that moved I remember a

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candle in particular that would be out

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of the uh candle Harbor and it would

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just be all different places whenever we

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left and we come back and then different

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places and then one day I was talking to

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Ashley's grandmother down there and I

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was upstairs on the balcony from

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upstairs and we saw that the candle get

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up and just move over by the fireplace

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it didn't shoot out like under any kind

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of pressure it didn't tip all over and

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roll it just got up and moved over there

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and so uh we we saw that we saw how it

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moved you know with our own eyes and uh

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but we didn't get cameras in there you

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know like for a really long time uh uh

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really it was it was uh

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oh my goodness it was a long time but uh

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it was only uh it was only until all

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this weird light formations that started

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in 2011 when John John started coming he

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was the first person that came you know

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he came and he did his own thing and uh

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he just was real quiet and he kept his

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own records and he was doing his own

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research and he really didn't even tell

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me everything and I'm really glad he

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didn't because I would have been scared

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I would have been scared I really I

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would have but uh but uh but after I had

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that light experience I thought I'm not

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going to be able to stay here anymore so

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I you know I just started looking for

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somebody to come and try to do something

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because I knew I wasn't going to be able

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to stay there so John came and uh it was

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indirect I didn't even know him but

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through somebody else that I talked to

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so he came and he started keeping you

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know keeping his own uh looking for his

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own evidence writing it down I heard

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some EVPs I remember I was just

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flabbergasted the first time I heard

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EVPs I I mean I just I mean like it

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makes it real like you know some

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conscious presence is in that house

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talking and you can't see them so it's

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real it's real you know I just kind of

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got used to it gradually really by

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stages but after John came in later Brad

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came and together uh I think maybe John

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already had some light some on camera

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stuff but then then they both have

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cameras up so from that time on we

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started documenting the evidence and

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we've got you know tons up now it

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involves Our Lives light formations we

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don't have as many of those as I would

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like because a lot of the light

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formations some of them were before we

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got cameras and sometimes they've been

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like on the floor or where the cameras

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don't reach but we've had a light we've

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had um noises you know it could be

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voices of Music uh thumps sounds sounds

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like some sounds like an Intruders in

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the house sometimes and there's nobody

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there

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just lots of different noises and then

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things moving so I would say lights

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things moving and voices and and people

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have also had some weird physical

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experiences like especially uh like on

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the beds uh you feel like somebody's

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getting in the bed and the bed moves

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down pushes there or something like that

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and and I've had 10 people just had

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bizarre experiences you know like uh one

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person just woke up this was actually my

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grandson he saw he's like 22. he didn't

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like any of this stuff you know he

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didn't like any stuff he doesn't stay

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there real but I he was screaming and he

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woke me up at like 1 30. and so uh you

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know I went up there and he said would

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you turn the light on and I turned the

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light on and he said I think I heard

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muffled talking before you know before

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he screamed but he said what happened

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was he felt like something had pushed

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through him and pushed the bed down

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beneath him and so he lost his balance

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and he just you know he screamed and uh

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so then I didn't say too much that I

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know he didn't want to talk about but

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the next day I said you know what do you

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think about that and I said you think uh

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he said you think I was dreaming he said

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it was not a dream he said I wasn't even

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asleep uh he said I said well what do

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you think it is and he said it was

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something something paranormal I don't

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know what it was and um and then I

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um I had another person that was

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spending the night up there and he said

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that he that he felt he heard this home

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like hmm and it got hard and hard my

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heart and he said his body vibrated with

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it and he said it was a policeman by the

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way but he said that he uh thought he

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was having a stroke he said he totally

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thought he was having a stroke and then

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he said he felt this cold blanket of air

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pass over him and it was fun after that

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was gone I mean just weird stuff you

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know that's that's only

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you know individual things we don't have

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a bunch of but I started writing I gave

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the paper to them to break those things

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down and Kendall said I should have a

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like a video recorder and let people

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video you know what they what they felt

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and everything but I'm not too good with

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cameras and that kind of stuff and uh

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but I've got it written on experience

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we've had a lot of just so many

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different so many different experiences

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so um so John how did you get involved

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with this when did you find out about it

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and when did you decide to start

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documenting it

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yep so uh I started doing uh paranormal

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research uh 2008 is when I started kind

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of getting into the Paranormal for

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experiences I had as a child uh and

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traditionally I would do historical

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places I would travel around the country

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and investigate I love history trying to

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track down folklore from fact and then

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go in and kind of do a uh a full

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investigation we like silent audio

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trying to capture EVPs and this and the

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other

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um so I didn't do a lot of private

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resident investigations uh the two

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people who investigated with me at the

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time when I first started uh we actually

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did a couple private residents

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investigations early on we had some

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really bad experiences uh like one was a

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single mother uh who had two kids and we

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went to her house and we had a

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questionnaire we would ask this person

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or whoever we're working with questions

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same question but we'll ask it a

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different various ways to see if their

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story changes right kind of that people

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before we go because you know a lot of

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people think their house haunted but

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it's not and some people are crazy you

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know

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so anyway but we went to this lady's

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house and you know walking in the house

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it was one of the nastiest houses I've

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ever seen I should have called Child

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Services it was a bad experience so I

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say that to tell you that that's not

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what I wanted to do selfishly I wanted

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to investigate to collect evidence to

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validate what I experienced as a child

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that's why I started investigating but a

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friend of a friend reached out to me and

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said hey this lady uh says her house is

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haunted and at the time Alice didn't

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live that far away from me so I was like

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let's take a chance let's go meet Alice

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and just meeting Alice for the first

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time she's one of the most genuine

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people that you'll ever meet I could

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tell that she was truly scared and

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confused of what was happening in her

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house and I didn't tell her this for for

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years but when I sat down on the couch

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with her in the house for the first time

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I actually had an experience for the

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first I think it was the first 30

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minutes we were in the house I saw what

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looked like a shadow figure or a mask

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move up the stairwell which reminded me

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of what I saw when I was a child I'm

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definitely not a medium I don't have

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that skill set however what got me into

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the Paranormal is I would see shadow

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figures as a child I would hear voices

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and there's an example of that in the

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house in between the first one uh when I

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was younger I had the Justin Bieber uh

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swoosh haircut but we were testing out a

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camera in a cemetery and I hear somebody

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whisper and I react but the other people

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around me don't react so that's kind of

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what got me into the field but meeting

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Alex for the first time I could tell

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that she just wanted to understand what

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was happening I had an experience that

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piqued my interest and then doing the

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first initial investigation in the house

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we captured some audio we had a door

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move so I knew that the house was

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different and it's crazy because I have

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a short attention span but this house

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has kept me locked in for you know over

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a decade now

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um and it's one of those things where

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Alice's house is unique because again

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it's a 1990s house it's not your typical

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Victorian Mansion right

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um it's a beautiful house but

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it's the most

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active or consistently active location

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that I've ever experienced in my entire

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life and I've investigated some really

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cool places all over the United States

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I've been to Jamaica to do some

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investigations I consider myself a

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semi-versed well-versed travel

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Paranormal Investigator but Alice's home

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is the most consistent location and and

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putting so much energy in the house with

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myself Brad Amy and Alex herself now

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which is accidentally become kind of an

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investigator herself to try to figure

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out what's happening in her home you

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know it's like we've built some kind of

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weird connection with the entities that

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are in the house and we do believe that

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there's two definitely dominant Spirits

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here there's a male and a female and

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we've been able to capture their vocal

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tones EVPs uh same vocal tones with the

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male and a female throughout the years

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um and as you watch if you watch the

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house in between and the Houseman and in

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between two you'll see that it's like

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we're almost teaching the spirits it's

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like we're focusing on objects and

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specifically just one thing we're

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getting a reaction out of it so as an

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investigator what's interesting to me is

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you know before I met Alice I like to

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hit as many places as I can I go

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investigate it's awesome I check it off

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my list and I move on but being so

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invested in one location for so long and

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and Alice being so generous to let us

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use our house as the Paranormal

361
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laboratory it's interesting to see what

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we can do to kind of build a

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relationship if there's conscious energy

364
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and there's intelligent Spirits at this

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house on this land

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I know it sounds crazy but I feel like

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they know they know Alice obviously I

368
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feel like they they built a relationship

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with myself as well because whenever you

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know whenever we have tours and and have

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people come in the house we always tell

372
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people look we can't make things happen

373
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I can't tell you that at 11 o'clock

374
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tonight we're gonna have full body

375
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Apparition coming down the stairs

376
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however

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I never feel pressure at the house I

378
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want people to experience what I've

379
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experienced I let the house do its

380
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natural thing and we've captured some

381
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incredible stuff along the way

382
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you know I talked to Alice a bit before

383
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you came on and I was telling her I'm

384
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intuitive and um I've done a lot of

385
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cases

386
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been doing this for about 45 years now

387
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and I've been involved with some some

388
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pretty bad hauntings in the past two

389
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but I tell you the one thing about this

390
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film that that kind of interested and

391
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grabbed my attention was and I told

392
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Vincent about this as I was watching it

393
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was

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I could tell that

395
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even though I had something I don't

396
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necessarily do you guys that were in

397
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there were adding energy to the house

398
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and you could kind of sense that

399
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but

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and I don't know if this ever came up in

401
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the investigation

402
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but I did tell Vincent I sensed

403
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uh slave children being buried in an

404
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area near there now does that sound

405
00:15:42,769 --> 00:15:40,430
this is on that property that piece of

406
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land I would just find this but that on

407
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that land uh it was Farmland we found

408
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farm equipment and stuff like that but

409
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they all also had some slave houses and

410
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at one time uh that one time there was a

411
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tornado that went through and it it

412
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killed lots of people and uh so well

413
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that it's it's you know we looked out in

414
00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:01,680
the history history of the town you know

415
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when you counted the people on the land

416
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and you know it's kind of unpleasant but

417
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they counted the property on the land

418
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and then the next year there were a

419
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whole a lot fewer you know few of people

420
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because of the it's a natural or

421
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disaster or something like that was a

422
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tornado so there was also a couple of

423
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tires weren't there

424
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yeah the house has been I mean the the

425
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town has has been at least twice totally

426
00:16:29,930 --> 00:16:28,320
burned it was kind of funny yeah you saw

427
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in the paper he said the town was

428
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demolished by fire you know sixty

429
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thousand dollars worth of damage because

430
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it was so it was such a small town you

431
00:16:39,889 --> 00:16:38,040
know back then that was I guess but

432
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that's a but yeah there have been

433
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several fires there is an amazing

434
00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:43,680
history of the Florence I mean I have

435
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gone back after I saw it saw the films

436
00:16:51,949 --> 00:16:49,620
and looked at it and it is it's a very

437
00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:51,959
interesting history

438
00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:52,860
um

439
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there's a lot of energy associated with

440
00:17:02,030 --> 00:16:58,199
the past there uh you know I live near

441
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Gettysburg so I you know I have been I

442
00:17:05,449 --> 00:17:03,779
have been attracted to Gettysburg all my

443
00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:05,459
life basically even though I did move

444
00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:07,919
away for a long time but it's still a

445
00:17:12,169 --> 00:17:09,780
track I still want them attracted there

446
00:17:13,130 --> 00:17:12,179
and I've had some experiences there as

447
00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:13,140
well

448
00:17:19,250 --> 00:17:16,500
but there are locations because of the

449
00:17:20,169 --> 00:17:19,260
past that really leave an imprint on the

450
00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:20,179
land

451
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and many times there is some real energy

452
00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:25,919
there

453
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and uh I I felt that with in your case

454
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there's something definitely there you

455
00:17:38,270 --> 00:17:35,880
know Bernadette who is usually the host

456
00:17:39,830 --> 00:17:38,280
one of the hosts on the show is in the

457
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chat right now she said do you feel the

458
00:17:44,870 --> 00:17:42,480
house has become its own entity and

459
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taken on a life of its own aside from

460
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I don't know what else to say

461
00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:55,860
scientist in fact you know I worked at a

462
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Catholic Hospital as a nurse for years

463
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and years and I made friends with a

464
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Catholic nun and she came over to the

465
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house and she stayed a couple nights and

466
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she came to various events that John was

467
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there and um

468
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she said I know that there there's a

469
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conscious I know there are conscious

470
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presence is in the house she said I just

471
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don't know how to reconcile it with my

472
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Catholic beliefs and she said what do

473
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you think is impurgatory and I thought I

474
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have no idea but because the house is

475
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conscious

476
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you know that's interesting you

477
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mentioned that because a few of the

478
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worst hauntings and and

479
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um

480
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attachments with clients I've had in the

481
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past or with women who have worked in

482
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nursing homes and in hospitals and in

483
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hospice care

484
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oh yeah I I don't know why it is I I

485
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well I'm sure it sure has to do with

486
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attachments from their their look you

487
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know where they work at and they come

488
00:19:00,650 --> 00:18:57,419
home with them or uh but they're they're

489
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very open to that type of energy

490
00:19:06,169 --> 00:19:04,080
I I'm quite sure that in your case it is

491
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I told you earlier that when I first saw

492
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Ashley

493
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uh on this the second this on the second

494
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installment uh I just had a

495
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I just had this real

496
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sense that she was in the beak and she

497
00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:22,500
attracted Spirit energy in life and then

498
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when I found out she had passed I

499
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I knew she was part of what's going on

500
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there now

501
00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:30,660
it was really evident

502
00:19:42,830 --> 00:19:39,770
that was around but

503
00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:42,840
it was I mean are we there for some

504
00:19:47,330 --> 00:19:44,760
particular purpose or did I mean well

505
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you know we just accidentally

506
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I I don't know I don't know if it's a

507
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territorial thing if it's an Earthbound

508
00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:54,960
spirit that feels that they need to

509
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:56,940
protect something that they used to have

510
00:20:02,210 --> 00:20:00,000
when they were when they're alive

511
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um I don't know there's a lot of

512
00:20:05,750 --> 00:20:03,539
different there's a lot of different

513
00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:05,760
reasons as to why

514
00:20:11,210 --> 00:20:09,360
uh these Earthbound energies act up

515
00:20:13,610 --> 00:20:11,220
um a lot of times they don't even know

516
00:20:15,470 --> 00:20:13,620
they're dead I mean let alone you know

517
00:20:16,610 --> 00:20:15,480
if they do feel like they're attached to

518
00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:16,620
the land

519
00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:19,080
that uh maybe they have a secret of

520
00:20:22,490 --> 00:20:20,760
something that they're trying to hide

521
00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:22,500
and they don't want you to find out

522
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:23,700
about it

523
00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,880
yeah we've had several mediums uh say

524
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there is something

525
00:20:34,549 --> 00:20:32,220
something there that yeah and I don't

526
00:20:36,169 --> 00:20:34,559
have any uh any weird experiences

527
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:36,179
anywhere else you know no place

528
00:20:41,570 --> 00:20:38,000
elsewhere I go spend the night no hotels

529
00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:41,580
yeah no yeah and we've had we've had uh

530
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:43,919
several mediums throughout the the years

531
00:20:46,970 --> 00:20:45,720
from obviously different places they

532
00:20:49,789 --> 00:20:46,980
didn't know each other but it's

533
00:20:51,409 --> 00:20:49,799
interesting to see the pieces of the

534
00:20:53,029 --> 00:20:51,419
stories that mesh with the different

535
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,039
people who come in who have the ability

536
00:20:57,049 --> 00:20:55,440
of that but it's like a spirit hotel is

537
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:57,059
one of the most common things we've been

538
00:21:01,610 --> 00:20:59,460
told that Alice's house is that Spears

539
00:21:04,130 --> 00:21:01,620
and energies come and go and it kind of

540
00:21:05,870 --> 00:21:04,140
makes sense because that's what's kept

541
00:21:07,850 --> 00:21:05,880
me attracted to the house for so long

542
00:21:09,770 --> 00:21:07,860
yes I feel like there's a mail in this

543
00:21:11,570 --> 00:21:09,780
meanwhile female Spirit that's attached

544
00:21:13,070 --> 00:21:11,580
to the land that's always there but it's

545
00:21:14,990 --> 00:21:13,080
almost like there's a revolving door

546
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:15,000
because every time we go in her house

547
00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:16,559
the energy is a little bit different

548
00:21:21,890 --> 00:21:19,440
we've captured some really really unique

549
00:21:24,049 --> 00:21:21,900
dominant voices sometimes I've been

550
00:21:26,090 --> 00:21:24,059
scared in her house very rarely but then

551
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,100
sometimes it's very mellow and calm so

552
00:21:29,630 --> 00:21:28,080
it's literally when you when you turn

553
00:21:31,610 --> 00:21:29,640
that door knob and walk in the house

554
00:21:33,289 --> 00:21:31,620
it's almost like you don't know what

555
00:21:35,570 --> 00:21:33,299
you're walking into you know it's like

556
00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:35,580
if you live with a Bipolar person it's

557
00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:38,760
like Dr Jekyll Mr Hyde or whatever but

558
00:21:42,649 --> 00:21:40,440
the house is always evolving and that's

559
00:21:45,289 --> 00:21:42,659
why definitely for me as an investigator

560
00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:45,299
I mean it's kept my interest for over a

561
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,500
decade

562
00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:48,960
yeah you know one thing I find very

563
00:21:54,110 --> 00:21:51,000
interesting about all this is

564
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:54,120
um this isn't a situation where there's

565
00:21:58,010 --> 00:21:56,520
dysfunction with the actual people who

566
00:22:01,970 --> 00:21:58,020
are experienced in The Haunting are

567
00:22:04,490 --> 00:22:01,980
there some type of other issue uh this

568
00:22:07,789 --> 00:22:04,500
is something that was organic it just

569
00:22:09,409 --> 00:22:07,799
showed up for whatever reason and uh

570
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:09,419
it's something that had to have been

571
00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,120
attached to the land and it's just

572
00:22:16,610 --> 00:22:14,400
raising its ugly head and showing itself

573
00:22:21,230 --> 00:22:16,620
and like you said that being a revolving

574
00:22:22,669 --> 00:22:21,240
door I have seen that many times uh

575
00:22:28,190 --> 00:22:22,679
now

576
00:22:30,169 --> 00:22:28,200
that but of course I believe that these

577
00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:30,179
Earth these Earthbound energies to

578
00:22:35,330 --> 00:22:32,340
attract other other energy

579
00:22:37,370 --> 00:22:35,340
and uh you're right that may be like a

580
00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:37,380
concentrating Point concentration point

581
00:22:40,970 --> 00:22:39,419
for these things

582
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,980
um you know I was kind of I was very

583
00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:42,960
intrigued by the the two psychics that

584
00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:45,480
you had on on the um

585
00:22:52,130 --> 00:22:49,320
on the presentation uh and they became

586
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:52,140
very emotional which was very realistic

587
00:22:57,770 --> 00:22:55,200
to me because I I get emotional too some

588
00:23:00,169 --> 00:22:57,780
at some point when I'm you know and

589
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:00,179
doing an investigation that does happen

590
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:04,080
uh but by seeing the way they responded

591
00:23:10,490 --> 00:23:06,240
the way they immediately went to

592
00:23:13,789 --> 00:23:10,500
locations like in the backyard and felt

593
00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:13,799
certain things that were there uh then

594
00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:16,080
the scientific aspects of it having the

595
00:23:22,430 --> 00:23:18,480
cadaver does come in there and and

596
00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:22,440
sensing the energy in the trees from you

597
00:23:28,610 --> 00:23:25,799
know that that's all real I I really

598
00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:28,620
responded to that so I got to give

599
00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:31,860
everybody credit uh for for doing that

600
00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:35,640
for showing all aspects of uh evidence

601
00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:38,460
Gathering and uh you know I don't know

602
00:23:42,230 --> 00:23:40,080
if you really came up with assumptions

603
00:23:46,430 --> 00:23:42,240
what was really going on

604
00:23:48,110 --> 00:23:46,440
but I I think you really left uh some

605
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:48,120
good interpretation

606
00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:50,340
aspects to where people can really make

607
00:23:55,010 --> 00:23:52,460
their own mind up as to what is going on

608
00:23:57,049 --> 00:23:55,020
yeah we always say Alice's house is like

609
00:23:58,970 --> 00:23:57,059
a huge puzzle you know the pieces are

610
00:24:00,529 --> 00:23:58,980
scattered and we're just one by one

611
00:24:01,909 --> 00:24:00,539
putting the pieces together but there's

612
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:01,919
still a whole lot that we don't know

613
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,559
right and Sam was Sam was great uh on

614
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,240
the house in between part two and Jill

615
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:07,919
was from the first and and the second

616
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:10,260
one and Jill is incredible just and I

617
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:12,419
love that she sketches you know she drew

618
00:24:16,549 --> 00:24:13,980
some walking sticks before she got there

619
00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:16,559
and you know Steve uh from Ghost Hunters

620
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:22,669
it's a little bit about bringing a

621
00:24:26,690 --> 00:24:24,480
medium in but you know Alice wanted it

622
00:24:28,190 --> 00:24:26,700
and we wanted it and he wanted to kind

623
00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:28,200
of Go full throttle because he was doing

624
00:24:31,789 --> 00:24:30,000
the scientific side so he's like let's

625
00:24:34,430 --> 00:24:31,799
bring a medium in but his only

626
00:24:36,169 --> 00:24:34,440
stipulation was I'll pick them they're

627
00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:36,179
not going to be anywhere near from

628
00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:37,559
Mississippi they're not going to know

629
00:24:40,250 --> 00:24:38,580
what they're doing where they're going

630
00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:40,260
so he brought her in picked her up from

631
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:42,240
the airport drove her straight there but

632
00:24:45,049 --> 00:24:43,440
it was neat to look at her sketches

633
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:45,059
already and she sketched the walking

634
00:24:50,029 --> 00:24:47,700
sticks which uh Alice collects walking

635
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:50,039
sticks and she also drew the door which

636
00:24:54,350 --> 00:24:51,840
you saw at the end of the first house in

637
00:24:55,970 --> 00:24:54,360
between was a very relevant door and one

638
00:24:58,490 --> 00:24:55,980
of my favorite things about the house in

639
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,500
between I got chills when I watched it

640
00:25:01,610 --> 00:25:00,000
and this is just me I've been in the

641
00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:01,620
house for over a decade this has never

642
00:25:06,649 --> 00:25:04,980
happened they were interviewing Jill and

643
00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:06,659
they were talking about the town burning

644
00:25:11,630 --> 00:25:08,700
and then the smoke detector started

645
00:25:16,430 --> 00:25:14,330
what the first time I saw that footage I

646
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:16,440
was just like it was just cold chills

647
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:18,360
down my body I was like that is insane

648
00:25:23,029 --> 00:25:20,880
uh so she's she's really incredible and

649
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:23,039
I'm glad that you know we we really did

650
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,440
they did Steve Kendall Vera all them

651
00:25:29,630 --> 00:25:27,360
just they're the brains behind it but

652
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:29,640
bringing the cadaver dogs in and you

653
00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:31,380
know doing the ground penetrating radar

654
00:25:35,570 --> 00:25:33,240
and really checking off all those

655
00:25:37,610 --> 00:25:35,580
natural boxes and kind of meshing out

656
00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:37,620
everything together it was a beautiful

657
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,400
thing to see it really was yeah you know

658
00:25:45,230 --> 00:25:43,679
I think at some point

659
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:45,240
uh and I don't know how much

660
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,799
investigating you're going to continue

661
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,720
doing in the house I'm quite sure you

662
00:25:53,690 --> 00:25:51,360
are uh I I think something will come

663
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:53,700
together one day I really do

664
00:25:58,970 --> 00:25:55,559
I think I think something will happen

665
00:26:01,850 --> 00:25:58,980
the the light bulbs will go off and then

666
00:26:02,990 --> 00:26:01,860
you'll start putting it together

667
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,000
um

668
00:26:10,850 --> 00:26:05,039
have you ever

669
00:26:13,490 --> 00:26:10,860
remote viewer come in

670
00:26:15,409 --> 00:26:13,500
we actually did that we did that one

671
00:26:19,250 --> 00:26:15,419
time it was really interesting with

672
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:19,260
darindita you know I can't remember yeah

673
00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:20,640
I don't really watch sports television

674
00:26:25,549 --> 00:26:22,440
but I can't remember you know where he's

675
00:26:28,490 --> 00:26:25,559
working now but he used to uh uh it used

676
00:26:31,330 --> 00:26:28,500
to be in Jackson Mississippi and he was

677
00:26:34,370 --> 00:26:31,340
the first person uh that ever did a

678
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,380
televised investigation you know so so

679
00:26:37,970 --> 00:26:35,760
that's real interesting you can still

680
00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:37,980
see that on YouTube uh John you know

681
00:26:40,669 --> 00:26:39,360
what station he's on there indeed or

682
00:26:42,649 --> 00:26:40,679
whatever whatever he was on that time he

683
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,659
interviewed us but he had been hit us in

684
00:26:46,370 --> 00:26:44,700
Jackson and he came and said I remember

685
00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:46,380
when he first came out he was the first

686
00:26:49,730 --> 00:26:48,240
televised thing and I was real uh

687
00:26:51,830 --> 00:26:49,740
nervous because I because that the house

688
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:51,840
was quiet that day it had been quite two

689
00:26:54,649 --> 00:26:53,220
or three days and I thought this is

690
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,659
going to be so embarrassing if you know

691
00:26:58,490 --> 00:26:56,159
if he agreed to come out and then have

692
00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:58,500
been on television nothing happens but

693
00:27:03,649 --> 00:27:00,480
that didn't happen well they got five

694
00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:03,659
good clear EVPs and for some reason they

695
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:06,299
were all from movie lines like uh here's

696
00:27:11,210 --> 00:27:09,260
Johnny and let's ride yeah

697
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,220
the written version

698
00:27:15,950 --> 00:27:13,919
but on YouTube but anyway and then uh

699
00:27:17,149 --> 00:27:15,960
while he was talking to me but while he

700
00:27:18,710 --> 00:27:17,159
was literally talking to me with his

701
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:18,720
zombies you know not on the camera he

702
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:20,700
said I just saw a ball of light go down

703
00:27:26,090 --> 00:27:23,220
and then go after the while and and that

704
00:27:27,590 --> 00:27:26,100
came out on the on the segment the knee

705
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,600
saying my little five minute news it

706
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:29,279
came out on there and then all their

707
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:30,480
equipment went off I mean everything

708
00:27:34,970 --> 00:27:32,220
they brought went off in different rooms

709
00:27:36,409 --> 00:27:34,980
and so uh it was a tip art thing and the

710
00:27:38,690 --> 00:27:36,419
you know the question was is this house

711
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:38,700
haunted and of course the conclusion was

712
00:27:47,870 --> 00:27:45,710
uh do you have anything Vincent

713
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:47,880
uh I I did one too for the uh people

714
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:49,919
that may have not seen both of the

715
00:27:54,049 --> 00:27:51,179
movies how long have you been

716
00:27:57,230 --> 00:27:54,059
investigating the house

717
00:27:59,330 --> 00:27:57,240
uh well let's say uh for what uh two

718
00:28:03,230 --> 00:27:59,340
thousand probably nine or something like

719
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,240
that Ten Thousand Eleven it's when I got

720
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:05,039
scared and left and we started hard and

721
00:28:07,850 --> 00:28:06,480
heavy investigating and all that but it

722
00:28:14,330 --> 00:28:07,860
germs there a little bit before that so

723
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:17,690
because

724
00:28:21,470 --> 00:28:19,610
I was gonna say it's neat you know it's

725
00:28:23,690 --> 00:28:21,480
neat just you know

726
00:28:26,510 --> 00:28:23,700
with with all the things we've captured

727
00:28:28,370 --> 00:28:26,520
and and you know just it to really

728
00:28:30,049 --> 00:28:28,380
understand

729
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:30,059
if you do appear no more if you're an

730
00:28:33,710 --> 00:28:31,500
investigator you kind of understand what

731
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,720
we do because this is not as as sexy as

732
00:28:39,289 --> 00:28:35,760
it seems on any TV show or any

733
00:28:41,269 --> 00:28:39,299
documentary it's a long process and it's

734
00:28:43,310 --> 00:28:41,279
a very slow burn

735
00:28:45,590 --> 00:28:43,320
um and you know just the chandelier

736
00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:45,600
that's a part of the first film or the

737
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:46,860
baseball that's part of the first film

738
00:28:51,710 --> 00:28:49,440
you know I was in the house

739
00:28:53,090 --> 00:28:51,720
like almost a year before I even

740
00:28:55,789 --> 00:28:53,100
realized the chandelier could do

741
00:28:57,830 --> 00:28:55,799
anything I was doing an EVP session with

742
00:28:59,390 --> 00:28:57,840
the chandeliers where this poster is and

743
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:59,400
I was just asking questions it was me

744
00:29:03,049 --> 00:29:00,960
and my invest one of my investigators

745
00:29:05,450 --> 00:29:03,059
Alice wasn't at the house I said do you

746
00:29:06,830 --> 00:29:05,460
miss Alice do you wish she was here and

747
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:06,840
all of a sudden all the lights were off

748
00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:08,159
in the house instead for the chandelier

749
00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:10,440
and I got a shock to the back of my neck

750
00:29:15,529 --> 00:29:12,299
it felt like if you like touched like a

751
00:29:16,970 --> 00:29:15,539
bug zapper or something and it scared me

752
00:29:18,830 --> 00:29:16,980
um I jumped out of the chair and landed

753
00:29:21,169 --> 00:29:18,840
on my knee and I didn't realize at the

754
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,179
same time the chandelier had drained so

755
00:29:24,889 --> 00:29:22,980
in my head I'm like spinning I'm like

756
00:29:26,870 --> 00:29:24,899
okay so did they take the energy and

757
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,880
shock me and it's one of those things I

758
00:29:29,570 --> 00:29:28,320
always say you want it to happen again

759
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:29,580
but then you never wanted to happen

760
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:32,580
again you know but then but but then we

761
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:34,200
started thinking like okay well can you

762
00:29:37,909 --> 00:29:35,940
replicate that and that's kind of the

763
00:29:39,889 --> 00:29:37,919
birth of the chandelier and then we

764
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:39,899
started you know eventually down the

765
00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:42,480
road we were like okay the first time I

766
00:29:45,950 --> 00:29:43,860
came in like I told you the first

767
00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:45,960
experience I had was a shadow figure up

768
00:29:50,090 --> 00:29:47,880
the stairs and we'd have the door move

769
00:29:51,830 --> 00:29:50,100
and stuff so I knew the stairwell for

770
00:29:53,870 --> 00:29:51,840
some reason you just felt like a hotbed

771
00:29:56,389 --> 00:29:53,880
of activity so we started setting

772
00:29:57,769 --> 00:29:56,399
trigger objects up on the stairs and one

773
00:29:59,810 --> 00:29:57,779
of the objects obviously was a baseball

774
00:30:01,730 --> 00:29:59,820
we did it because the baseball's hard

775
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:01,740
round and also it's got stitching on

776
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:04,500
both sides so to me in my head if it

777
00:30:07,970 --> 00:30:06,240
moves that gives me a focal point to see

778
00:30:09,470 --> 00:30:07,980
if it moves left to right so I can kind

779
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,480
of visualize and see what's happening

780
00:30:13,669 --> 00:30:11,279
what's manipulating it

781
00:30:15,529 --> 00:30:13,679
but that took six months

782
00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:15,539
it sounded like a long time

783
00:30:19,070 --> 00:30:17,100
think about it you know the definition

784
00:30:21,130 --> 00:30:19,080
of insanity is doing the same thing ever

785
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:21,140
again expecting different goals

786
00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:24,480
except for the Paranormal field but you

787
00:30:27,289 --> 00:30:26,039
know and eventually as you see in the

788
00:30:30,649 --> 00:30:27,299
house in between

789
00:30:32,090 --> 00:30:30,659
luckily crazily one day it came off the

790
00:30:33,710 --> 00:30:32,100
stairs you know I'm like a kid on

791
00:30:35,870 --> 00:30:33,720
Christmas he's got a brand new shiny

792
00:30:37,850 --> 00:30:35,880
bike but you know once it happened it

793
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:37,860
started happening ever again so this has

794
00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:40,799
been a journey of like you know what

795
00:30:45,529 --> 00:30:43,020
else can we do how close can we get to

796
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:45,539
whoever is haunting this property what

797
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:47,279
conversation can we have and if you

798
00:30:52,070 --> 00:30:48,480
watch the end of the house in between

799
00:30:53,810 --> 00:30:52,080
two you'll see something that that I've

800
00:30:56,690 --> 00:30:53,820
been focusing on for almost 10 months

801
00:30:58,190 --> 00:30:56,700
that we get a response from so and just

802
00:31:00,529 --> 00:30:58,200
like there's a doll in the house in

803
00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:00,539
between two as well we're we're trying

804
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:03,600
to push the boundaries of teaching the

805
00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:06,720
spirits like showing everybody we want

806
00:31:11,389 --> 00:31:08,220
to share the world that what's happening

807
00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:11,399
at Alice's house is real and you know

808
00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:14,100
how close can we reach out and touch uh

809
00:31:17,750 --> 00:31:15,960
the entities I know it sounds crazy but

810
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:17,760
at the same time I always tell Alice

811
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:23,810
Alice do you think there's any

812
00:31:28,850 --> 00:31:25,279
malevolency

813
00:31:31,130 --> 00:31:28,860
in this um in any of this uh these

814
00:31:33,049 --> 00:31:31,140
hauntings or any of this activity you

815
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:33,059
know I get absolutely nothing like that

816
00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:35,580
I am startled sometimes because I'm not

817
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,399
expecting something and uh you know you

818
00:31:44,149 --> 00:31:40,799
know like scream or something but uh but

819
00:31:45,889 --> 00:31:44,159
I don't feel any evil intend I'll in

820
00:31:47,090 --> 00:31:45,899
fact the things that happen you know

821
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:47,100
like I'll be there by myself and

822
00:31:51,710 --> 00:31:48,960
something'll happen usually it's what

823
00:31:53,510 --> 00:31:51,720
John has asked to happen if it moves you

824
00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:53,520
know something and it's like I feel like

825
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,620
maybe there's a delayed time until they

826
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:57,840
can do it or something and so I might be

827
00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,279
you know I'm definitely going to start

828
00:32:02,570 --> 00:32:01,380
by myself if we were there and everybody

829
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:02,580
was there I would think it was real

830
00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:04,080
killing everything that happens

831
00:32:07,970 --> 00:32:06,059
everybody can sit but if I put my sexual

832
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:07,980
nerve-wracking and especially at night I

833
00:32:12,049 --> 00:32:10,200
mean we can hear all kinds of sounds in

834
00:32:13,970 --> 00:32:12,059
the daytime and I'm fine with it you

835
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,980
know I'll go look or I know that if I go

836
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:15,120
look there's not gonna be anything there

837
00:32:19,789 --> 00:32:16,799
but at night you know it really is

838
00:32:21,889 --> 00:32:19,799
unnerving because I'm not sure it's not

839
00:32:23,570 --> 00:32:21,899
a person in the house and it and if it

840
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:23,580
is I'm scared and if it's not I'm scared

841
00:32:27,289 --> 00:32:25,140
it's just a totally different feeling

842
00:32:29,690 --> 00:32:27,299
not but I don't I don't really think

843
00:32:31,610 --> 00:32:29,700
that they made me any harm or anything

844
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:31,620
I've never felt it like that just right

845
00:32:37,130 --> 00:32:34,740
just because I don't know what it is

846
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:37,140
uh Bernadette wants to know what and I'm

847
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:39,240
going to ask both of you because you've

848
00:32:43,070 --> 00:32:41,279
experienced things as well John what's

849
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:43,080
the most frightening event that has

850
00:32:50,169 --> 00:32:48,409
good are you go ahead John yeah go ahead

851
00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:50,179
Alice oh okay

852
00:33:02,210 --> 00:33:00,110
the thing that just changed my whole

853
00:33:04,010 --> 00:33:02,220
life was uh you know I had gotten in bed

854
00:33:05,389 --> 00:33:04,020
I I had to hurry and go to sleep because

855
00:33:07,610 --> 00:33:05,399
I had to get up early the next day I'd

856
00:33:09,350 --> 00:33:07,620
worked 16 hours and 16 next time and I

857
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:09,360
and I had just taking a shower got in

858
00:33:14,269 --> 00:33:12,000
bed and I was doing a meditation and I

859
00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:14,279
was just uh praying for the health of a

860
00:33:17,570 --> 00:33:16,260
person that I knew and and I knew it was

861
00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:17,580
just like one of those instant answered

862
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,840
prayers I knew it was okay you know I

863
00:33:22,549 --> 00:33:20,640
knew the person was going to be okay and

864
00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,559
uh so but I was feeling just you know

865
00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:24,720
just happy you know Blissful and uh so

866
00:33:28,730 --> 00:33:26,700
the room was very dark but a light came

867
00:33:30,409 --> 00:33:28,740
on and so you know I opened my eyes and

868
00:33:31,610 --> 00:33:30,419
and there was a tunnel of light you know

869
00:33:34,250 --> 00:33:31,620
from the ceiling to the floor it was

870
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,260
about three feet and diameter and inside

871
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:36,480
that tunnel it was Daylight the rest of

872
00:33:41,570 --> 00:33:39,240
the room was pitch black dark the light

873
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,580
in the tunnel did not diffuse you know

874
00:33:45,409 --> 00:33:43,440
you couldn't see another thing I could

875
00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:45,419
say part of a piece of furniture I could

876
00:33:49,909 --> 00:33:47,340
say the wallpaper I could see a vacuum

877
00:33:51,470 --> 00:33:49,919
cleaner but nothing outside of that and

878
00:33:53,810 --> 00:33:51,480
I just you know I didn't know what to do

879
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:53,820
I just stared and I think it probably

880
00:33:58,190 --> 00:33:55,919
lasted about 10 seconds which sing

881
00:34:00,409 --> 00:33:58,200
forever and then it just blinked off and

882
00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:00,419
so I had a flashlight because uh the

883
00:34:03,889 --> 00:34:02,100
lights do go off you know sometimes in

884
00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:03,899
the hall and stuff so I had I have a

885
00:34:07,130 --> 00:34:05,399
flashlight and I shining around and

886
00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:07,140
there's uh there was there was nothing

887
00:34:11,149 --> 00:34:09,899
there so I I just debated my options I

888
00:34:12,409 --> 00:34:11,159
debated my options about you know

889
00:34:14,510 --> 00:34:12,419
whether I should run whether I should

890
00:34:17,570 --> 00:34:14,520
not you know where but I had I have I

891
00:34:19,669 --> 00:34:17,580
really had a strong strong feeling of

892
00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:19,679
being watched and it was I could tell it

893
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:21,300
was coming from like to the left of the

894
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,280
door I just knew it I mean I just knew

895
00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:24,960
that there was something watching me but

896
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,940
I didn't necessarily even feel like it

897
00:34:31,070 --> 00:34:29,040
was uh it had evil intent toward me but

898
00:34:32,750 --> 00:34:31,080
it was just like watching me I felt like

899
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:32,760
whatever was there was watching this

900
00:34:38,510 --> 00:34:35,399
room watching something under them

901
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:38,520
the room and and I don't know but but I

902
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,740
felt I was definitely been observed so I

903
00:34:43,369 --> 00:34:42,000
you know honestly I just threw it up my

904
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:43,379
head I didn't know what else did and so

905
00:34:46,849 --> 00:34:45,179
finally I just kind of dozed off and

906
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,859
when I when I walked back up it was

907
00:34:50,329 --> 00:34:48,960
still dark and so I pulled curves back a

908
00:34:52,849 --> 00:34:50,339
little bit and there were these three

909
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,859
buttons of lot you know three buttons of

910
00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:54,720
red and it was on an area like about the

911
00:34:59,870 --> 00:34:57,180
size of a deck of cards on three corners

912
00:35:02,750 --> 00:34:59,880
there was a red a button a black and so

913
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:02,760
this was in 2011 and we didn't have

914
00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:04,200
cameras or anything and that's what

915
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:06,060
infrared was or anything but now you

916
00:35:08,690 --> 00:35:07,560
know when I say infrared buttons those

917
00:35:11,089 --> 00:35:08,700
red buttons that's what it looked like

918
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:11,099
and I felt like I was being watched at

919
00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:12,720
the time you know through that and I

920
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:14,460
started just staring at that

921
00:35:18,530 --> 00:35:16,260
because mainly I was trying to remember

922
00:35:20,810 --> 00:35:18,540
the experience so I could tell John but

923
00:35:22,370 --> 00:35:20,820
I was at least trying to do that but uh

924
00:35:27,170 --> 00:35:22,380
uh

925
00:35:29,390 --> 00:35:27,180
after a few seconds then I felt like

926
00:35:31,069 --> 00:35:29,400
that what that was there but now it was

927
00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:31,079
being observed like maybe whoever had no

928
00:35:33,530 --> 00:35:32,220
one paying attention but now they are

929
00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:33,540
and they're looking straight and they

930
00:35:36,589 --> 00:35:34,680
went out and that was the most

931
00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:36,599
terrifying thing that's when I moved out

932
00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:39,060
I never spent another night there by

933
00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:41,820
myself until the second film when they

934
00:35:44,750 --> 00:35:43,260
asked me too and everybody was out there

935
00:35:46,970 --> 00:35:44,760
I never spent another night there by

936
00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:46,980
myself it was yeah that was the most

937
00:35:50,690 --> 00:35:49,020
frightening thing to me and it didn't

938
00:35:52,970 --> 00:35:50,700
even feel like a ghost it felt like

939
00:35:54,890 --> 00:35:52,980
something totally different I mean I

940
00:35:57,770 --> 00:35:54,900
didn't feel it was nothing like the

941
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:57,780
ghost presence nothing this was new and

942
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:00,720
I I don't know what that was and that

943
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:02,220
repeated and repeated I'm a Different

944
00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:06,480
Light formation for food so yeah hmm how

945
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,160
about you John what what's the most exp

946
00:36:11,810 --> 00:36:10,560
uh fighting experience that you've had

947
00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:11,820
there

948
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:16,260
what with Alice's house people always

949
00:36:20,089 --> 00:36:18,240
ask you know do you get scared and it's

950
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:20,099
one of those things where I always say

951
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:22,740
yes but you also respect what Alice's

952
00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:24,540
house can do when you've been in there

953
00:36:28,970 --> 00:36:27,180
and like you said during the day you

954
00:36:31,370 --> 00:36:28,980
know things can happen like I've gone by

955
00:36:32,930 --> 00:36:31,380
one day with Alice there and I grabbed a

956
00:36:34,790 --> 00:36:32,940
charger for my laptop and we had

957
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:34,800
something move off the wall and like

958
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:36,780
it's it's scary but it's during the day

959
00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:39,060
so it's not as bad but when the when the

960
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:40,800
Sun goes down and especially if you're

961
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:43,140
in that space by yourself and you've

962
00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:44,640
experienced all the things that we have

963
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:47,820
you respect the space because you never

964
00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:50,339
know what can happen uh something that

965
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:52,140
was early on when we're we just got

966
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:53,940
cameras in the house I went by one night

967
00:36:57,530 --> 00:36:56,160
late probably 11 o'clock to change the

968
00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:57,540
cameras somebody's supposed to meet me

969
00:37:01,550 --> 00:37:00,119
there they bailed obviously and I was

970
00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,560
changing some cameras in the living room

971
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:04,500
and down the hallway I heard a

972
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,440
just a loud whistle and it I mean it was

973
00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,359
loud I thought somebody was literally in

974
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,040
the house in the back bedroom and I'm

975
00:37:15,170 --> 00:37:12,960
not a big guy so I got I had a big mag

976
00:37:16,849 --> 00:37:15,180
so I picked it up off the table and I

977
00:37:18,290 --> 00:37:16,859
walked down the hallway and I'm like I'm

978
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,300
just gonna throw it at home so I opened

979
00:37:22,970 --> 00:37:20,640
the door and obviously nobody's there

980
00:37:24,770 --> 00:37:22,980
but just I'm just confused because it

981
00:37:27,710 --> 00:37:24,780
was a whistle it was a person in the

982
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:27,720
back bedroom and I closed the door I was

983
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:30,480
walking back up the hallway and it

984
00:37:35,329 --> 00:37:32,280
whistled again and I got this on audio

985
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:35,339
so we have it documented and uh let's

986
00:37:39,470 --> 00:37:37,020
just say I didn't finish changing the

987
00:37:40,730 --> 00:37:39,480
cameras I just left so it's one of those

988
00:37:42,650 --> 00:37:40,740
things I'm a Paranormal Investigator

989
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:42,660
this is what we try to do but when

990
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:44,520
you're alone your psyche can only take

991
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:47,040
so much uh you know you're glad you had

992
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:48,839
that experience you'll you'll you'll put

993
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:51,000
in the vault and never forget it

994
00:37:54,050 --> 00:37:52,320
um and then there's another chance

995
00:37:56,089 --> 00:37:54,060
another time where it's me and two other

996
00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:56,099
male investigators it was just me and

997
00:37:59,210 --> 00:37:57,180
one person

998
00:38:00,770 --> 00:37:59,220
I brought a guy to the house which is

999
00:38:01,690 --> 00:38:00,780
neat bringing new people to Alice's

1000
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,700
house because it's different

1001
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:04,079
personalities and I feel like when we

1002
00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:05,460
bring new people in the house the house

1003
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,920
kind of reacts differently sometimes uh

1004
00:38:11,569 --> 00:38:09,839
but but this guy was never been to a

1005
00:38:14,390 --> 00:38:11,579
location he was going to Seminary School

1006
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:14,400
very nice well-respected guy

1007
00:38:17,690 --> 00:38:15,599
and they just wanted to have an

1008
00:38:19,670 --> 00:38:17,700
experience but we brought him in the

1009
00:38:21,530 --> 00:38:19,680
house one night it was me the male

1010
00:38:25,370 --> 00:38:21,540
investigator and the gentleman going to

1011
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:25,380
Seminary the house was like it's like it

1012
00:38:29,810 --> 00:38:27,480
had 10 Red Bulls that's how I can

1013
00:38:32,510 --> 00:38:29,820
explain it it was just there was banging

1014
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:32,520
there was walking around the I mean the

1015
00:38:37,430 --> 00:38:35,880
house was just static this is one time

1016
00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,440
in the entire time I've ever

1017
00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:39,599
investigated Alice's house where I

1018
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:41,820
genuinely felt scared

1019
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:44,880
to the point where we all three stood up

1020
00:38:51,230 --> 00:38:47,280
were shoulder to shoulder together three

1021
00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:51,240
semi-grown men at the time and by the

1022
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:53,040
front door I think Alice hadn't told

1023
00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:54,420
this story in a while but by the front

1024
00:38:59,630 --> 00:38:57,060
door we all three heard what sounded

1025
00:39:02,630 --> 00:38:59,640
like a female begging for help to get

1026
00:39:05,290 --> 00:39:02,640
inside really it was a murmur at the

1027
00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:05,300
front door we all three were petrified

1028
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:07,920
we looked at each other none of us would

1029
00:39:12,290 --> 00:39:10,320
open the door we finally opened it but

1030
00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:12,300
we were almost holding hands is how

1031
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:13,980
scared we were and I'll never forget

1032
00:39:17,450 --> 00:39:15,599
that but again that's what brings me to

1033
00:39:19,670 --> 00:39:17,460
Alice's house her house is not usually

1034
00:39:22,010 --> 00:39:19,680
like that but there's times that you can

1035
00:39:24,050 --> 00:39:22,020
go in the house and the energy is so

1036
00:39:25,550 --> 00:39:24,060
static and it's just so charged where

1037
00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:25,560
it's almost hard to be in there for a

1038
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:28,260
long time and you know we do we're doing

1039
00:39:33,650 --> 00:39:31,680
a really cool experiment uh whenever we

1040
00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:33,660
have tours or like we have an event

1041
00:39:36,710 --> 00:39:35,160
tomorrow night for Halloween we have

1042
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,720
some people coming in from New York and

1043
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,400
all over to have a good time at the

1044
00:39:43,130 --> 00:39:40,380
house and having an experience you know

1045
00:39:45,950 --> 00:39:43,140
we we let them outside we'll bring one

1046
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,960
person in a Time Walk the house if any

1047
00:39:50,089 --> 00:39:48,000
space feels different they'll write it

1048
00:39:51,530 --> 00:39:50,099
on a car to give it to us it's neat to

1049
00:39:54,290 --> 00:39:51,540
see we've probably done this for over

1050
00:39:56,930 --> 00:39:54,300
100 people easily but it's neat to see

1051
00:39:59,089 --> 00:39:56,940
that 75 percent of the time people Peg

1052
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,099
one or two spaces and it's just neat to

1053
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,960
have that social experiment because some

1054
00:40:04,849 --> 00:40:02,400
people are more sensitive and some

1055
00:40:07,849 --> 00:40:04,859
people are not but with her house it's

1056
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:07,859
just such a unique space that there's

1057
00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:10,020
just something that just pulls people in

1058
00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:12,300
certain areas in the house so you know

1059
00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:13,980
it's interesting what's one of those two

1060
00:40:18,410 --> 00:40:16,740
spaces the uh the doorway upstairs to

1061
00:40:20,510 --> 00:40:18,420
the left when you first get into the

1062
00:40:23,210 --> 00:40:20,520
house if you if you're going upstairs

1063
00:40:24,970 --> 00:40:23,220
then the answer is yeah

1064
00:40:27,470 --> 00:40:24,980
yeah yeah

1065
00:40:29,690 --> 00:40:27,480
and it's it's a hard shift too because

1066
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:29,700
we we've had uh

1067
00:40:33,410 --> 00:40:32,040
you know we've had a it's weird it

1068
00:40:35,030 --> 00:40:33,420
sounds I always I feel like I sound

1069
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,040
crazy when I talk about it but it's just

1070
00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:36,960
we're in the house so much we're so

1071
00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:39,060
invested we can see the shift and

1072
00:40:43,730 --> 00:40:40,859
there's like a huge shift of energy I

1073
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:43,740
feel like up towards that stairwell

1074
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,560
um so I just recently we've just had you

1075
00:40:49,849 --> 00:40:48,000
know and again we're actively

1076
00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:49,859
investigating we put pieces of the

1077
00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:52,500
puzzle together but like you said

1078
00:40:56,690 --> 00:40:54,119
um you know I think there's something

1079
00:40:58,609 --> 00:40:56,700
very dramatic uh that it's not happened

1080
00:41:00,290 --> 00:40:58,619
yet there's something that we have not

1081
00:41:03,050 --> 00:41:00,300
figured out yet there's a light bulb

1082
00:41:05,089 --> 00:41:03,060
that's going to go off but but we have

1083
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:05,099
to do our due diligence and and maybe it

1084
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:06,960
takes you know another year maybe it

1085
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,880
makes another five years but you know

1086
00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:10,260
we're going to continue to get answers

1087
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:11,940
and the cool thing is and I'm just

1088
00:41:16,849 --> 00:41:13,920
rambling but the the neat thing is to

1089
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,859
see Alice today versus when I first met

1090
00:41:21,109 --> 00:41:19,200
her because we do live in Mississippi we

1091
00:41:22,609 --> 00:41:21,119
are on the Bible Belt and you know you

1092
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,619
don't want to go tell everybody my house

1093
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:24,000
is haunted they're gonna be like yeah

1094
00:41:29,089 --> 00:41:26,700
she's kind of crazy but you know she's

1095
00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:29,099
she's basically like a a celebrity in in

1096
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:31,800
the town over there now so but it's neat

1097
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,680
to see the growth and everybody

1098
00:41:38,089 --> 00:41:36,300
um even my son who's three years old

1099
00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:38,099
their daycare they want to come to the

1100
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:40,440
house and it's it's neat to see how how

1101
00:41:45,050 --> 00:41:43,320
interested everybody is now that that

1102
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:45,060
you have the documentaries you see the

1103
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:47,040
story so it's neat to see everybody kind

1104
00:41:50,510 --> 00:41:49,020
of just perk up and even if they weren't

1105
00:41:53,089 --> 00:41:50,520
into the Paranormal before they're

1106
00:41:54,050 --> 00:41:53,099
they're interested in it now

1107
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,060
um

1108
00:41:58,310 --> 00:41:55,440
yeah I

1109
00:42:00,829 --> 00:41:58,320
um I I agree with you I think there's

1110
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,839
going to be a culmination at some point

1111
00:42:04,690 --> 00:42:02,040
um

1112
00:42:07,790 --> 00:42:04,700
I don't know if it'll be the original

1113
00:42:09,170 --> 00:42:07,800
energies that are at the house but I

1114
00:42:10,609 --> 00:42:09,180
think something like you said the light

1115
00:42:12,050 --> 00:42:10,619
bulb is going to go off something's

1116
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,060
going to show itself

1117
00:42:16,310 --> 00:42:14,400
and I just got that real distinct

1118
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:16,320
feeling I felt that even from watching

1119
00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:19,140
the shows you know I

1120
00:42:24,230 --> 00:42:22,500
I really did I was delighted

1121
00:42:26,569 --> 00:42:24,240
like I'm not hurting anybody else but I

1122
00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:28,490
I feel condition may come from somebody

1123
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,119
and some other field you know like

1124
00:42:34,609 --> 00:42:33,359
physics maybe String Theory uh quantum

1125
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:34,619
physics where they say that things like

1126
00:42:38,690 --> 00:42:37,200
their possible wormholes of different

1127
00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,700
dimensions and stuff and of course it's

1128
00:42:42,410 --> 00:42:40,560
not there yet but I really feel like

1129
00:42:45,050 --> 00:42:42,420
some Discovery will be made that that

1130
00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,060
probably won't necessarily be the you

1131
00:42:48,589 --> 00:42:47,040
know what we think is Ghost energy I

1132
00:42:50,450 --> 00:42:48,599
mean I just feel that I don't know what

1133
00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:50,460
or how but I like what you said because

1134
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:54,180
uh that resonates with me yeah yeah I uh

1135
00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:56,400
Marlo in the chat asked is the house

1136
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:58,440
near running water and I remember Steve

1137
00:43:03,349 --> 00:43:00,960
mentioning that as part of some of the

1138
00:43:05,809 --> 00:43:03,359
investigation and you know is it near

1139
00:43:10,510 --> 00:43:05,819
running water there's a creek behind the

1140
00:43:17,450 --> 00:43:13,670
yeah yeah

1141
00:43:19,849 --> 00:43:17,460
uh oh I noticed that uh Brad cuny's in

1142
00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:19,859
the chat tonight he was probably going

1143
00:43:23,809 --> 00:43:22,380
to come on the show but uh I guess that

1144
00:43:25,790 --> 00:43:23,819
just came up but he's one of the

1145
00:43:27,530 --> 00:43:25,800
original investigators with John as well

1146
00:43:30,589 --> 00:43:27,540
I just want to mention that

1147
00:43:34,010 --> 00:43:30,599
uh he kind of got put in he was kind of

1148
00:43:35,150 --> 00:43:34,020
uh put into the situation like from the

1149
00:43:37,550 --> 00:43:35,160
very beginning that was kind of his

1150
00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,560
first case wasn't it yeah I really it

1151
00:43:42,290 --> 00:43:39,119
really was they just

1152
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:42,300
heard a little new segment and uh yeah

1153
00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:45,119
so it just was exciting he caught him he

1154
00:43:48,290 --> 00:43:46,920
asked me you know coming over got my you

1155
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:48,300
know number and he asked me if he could

1156
00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:50,040
come over and I said well yeah and I

1157
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:51,660
said that you know I mean I just tell

1158
00:43:55,370 --> 00:43:53,460
you these things happen I can't say it's

1159
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:55,380
hard or not hard or anything and we went

1160
00:43:58,910 --> 00:43:56,940
in there and everything happened you

1161
00:44:00,109 --> 00:43:58,920
know lights came on I wouldn't well we

1162
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:00,119
had you know like just different things

1163
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:02,280
we had a flashlight there and it came on

1164
00:44:06,349 --> 00:44:04,079
off and on you know on command all the

1165
00:44:09,950 --> 00:44:06,359
time and he said real bright real bright

1166
00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:09,960
and we had a you know some kind of green

1167
00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:13,380
light one and I and I you know somebody

1168
00:44:15,589 --> 00:44:14,700
had it I don't know who it was but I

1169
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:15,599
didn't know anything about it but all of

1170
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:16,800
a sudden it just started going you know

1171
00:44:20,270 --> 00:44:18,480
just spreading out all this green light

1172
00:44:21,290 --> 00:44:20,280
around it and they said that was unusual

1173
00:44:22,609 --> 00:44:21,300
I didn't know I didn't know what it was

1174
00:44:24,650 --> 00:44:22,619
supposed to do but uh but just

1175
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,660
everything just happened and so he was

1176
00:44:32,829 --> 00:44:26,400
hooked and and you know he just never

1177
00:44:36,790 --> 00:44:35,270
he got a good first case that's for sure

1178
00:44:40,609 --> 00:44:36,800
yeah

1179
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:40,619
the fact that he did pick up on the the

1180
00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:43,560
door opening and then seeing it in the

1181
00:44:47,329 --> 00:44:46,200
chandelier Bowl yeah that was pretty

1182
00:44:49,970 --> 00:44:47,339
interesting

1183
00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:49,980
um it's good that he picked up on that

1184
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:51,780
that was pretty good that was pretty

1185
00:44:56,329 --> 00:44:54,540
good evidence you know this is a this is

1186
00:44:58,490 --> 00:44:56,339
a good example sorry this is a good

1187
00:45:00,890 --> 00:44:58,500
example of of letting other people come

1188
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:00,900
into the house we've never been ever

1189
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,180
Alice or myself or anybody we're never

1190
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,520
territorial the more people we can bring

1191
00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:07,680
into the house to experience it to get

1192
00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:09,839
answers the better so I think that you

1193
00:45:12,109 --> 00:45:10,859
know and this is just because I've

1194
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:12,119
experienced this through my years and

1195
00:45:15,650 --> 00:45:13,920
I'm sure y'all probably have too but you

1196
00:45:17,089 --> 00:45:15,660
get some investigators they get closed

1197
00:45:19,069 --> 00:45:17,099
off they don't want anybody else in the

1198
00:45:22,069 --> 00:45:19,079
territory and this is theirs and this is

1199
00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:22,079
their case and you you gotta open your

1200
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:24,000
mind off and and collaborate with

1201
00:45:27,770 --> 00:45:25,920
everybody because we all have the same

1202
00:45:30,109 --> 00:45:27,780
you know honestly we all have the same

1203
00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:30,119
skills that we're all trying to get the

1204
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:32,339
same answers but you never know what you

1205
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:34,200
can pick up like you said you know if we

1206
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:35,880
wouldn't have brought Brad in then he

1207
00:45:40,670 --> 00:45:37,440
wouldn't have catch captured that on the

1208
00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:40,680
film and Brad you know he linked this to

1209
00:45:44,690 --> 00:45:42,720
Steve and you know without Brad the

1210
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:44,700
house in between me never existed so

1211
00:45:48,589 --> 00:45:46,440
it's one of those things where it takes

1212
00:45:50,569 --> 00:45:48,599
a village to create what's been created

1213
00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:50,579
yeah yeah

1214
00:45:54,829 --> 00:45:52,680
it's very diligent about watching those

1215
00:45:56,270 --> 00:45:54,839
cameras and that particular thing it was

1216
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:56,280
a few days later and he was still

1217
00:46:00,109 --> 00:45:57,960
wondering about it so he he went back

1218
00:46:01,790 --> 00:46:00,119
but he looked at that house you know

1219
00:46:03,290 --> 00:46:01,800
multiple times a day and he takes

1220
00:46:04,430 --> 00:46:03,300
pictures sometimes in the mornings and

1221
00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:04,440
then in the evenings to see if

1222
00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:06,180
anything's different you know uh from

1223
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:08,760
March not but uh yeah he's very diligent

1224
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:10,800
about watching the cameras

1225
00:46:16,190 --> 00:46:13,740
uh somebody did mention in the in the um

1226
00:46:17,870 --> 00:46:16,200
in the chat about possible portals I

1227
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:17,880
know Jill mentioned it during the

1228
00:46:22,550 --> 00:46:19,980
presentation

1229
00:46:25,309 --> 00:46:22,560
um did she ever connect any portal

1230
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:25,319
activity at the location at all

1231
00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:27,660
she told us where she thought uh you

1232
00:46:34,550 --> 00:46:30,900
know where she thought one was which was

1233
00:46:36,530 --> 00:46:34,560
outside the door that the the door and

1234
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:36,540
the last thing you know where the she

1235
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:38,220
had to walk and sit she said that when

1236
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,339
she steps outside she feels like she's

1237
00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:43,440
in a different space

1238
00:46:47,750 --> 00:46:44,520
um

1239
00:46:49,849 --> 00:46:47,760
let me ask you something now I I've been

1240
00:46:51,050 --> 00:46:49,859
I've had some experience with portals

1241
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,060
before

1242
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,240
have at any point you ever heard like

1243
00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:56,880
buzzing sounds like a uh like a large

1244
00:47:00,890 --> 00:46:59,160
swarm of bees have you ever heard

1245
00:47:02,569 --> 00:47:00,900
anything like that well I'll tell you

1246
00:47:04,910 --> 00:47:02,579
what one time I was folding clothes on

1247
00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:04,920
the couch and I heard

1248
00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:06,599
and then it was Taylor

1249
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:08,819
like two Bubble Pop

1250
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:11,520
big swishes and then bubble pop and and

1251
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,359
I mean I'm not you know that but it's

1252
00:47:17,930 --> 00:47:16,800
just telling my you know hair on my head

1253
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,940
stood up everything again I don't know

1254
00:47:20,809 --> 00:47:19,140
but I thought

1255
00:47:22,430 --> 00:47:20,819
I feel like that was from somewhere else

1256
00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:22,440
and then in the kitchen you're not too

1257
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:24,480
far from there I Heard a Voice one time

1258
00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:25,980
and it was a male voice and it sounded

1259
00:47:29,690 --> 00:47:28,260
it said like hello but it sounded like

1260
00:47:32,690 --> 00:47:29,700
it was coming through a tunnel

1261
00:47:34,910 --> 00:47:32,700
reverberating you know like it came a

1262
00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:34,920
long way but those are the two things

1263
00:47:40,750 --> 00:47:37,980
that made me think uh portal I don't

1264
00:47:47,230 --> 00:47:44,089
it could be I mean I have experienced it

1265
00:47:49,329 --> 00:47:47,240
and that seems to be the overriding

1266
00:47:53,030 --> 00:47:49,339
factor

1267
00:47:55,609 --> 00:47:53,040
when I've been involved or been near a

1268
00:47:58,190 --> 00:47:55,619
portal or what I perceived as a Porto is

1269
00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:58,200
like a buzzing sound like a b sound and

1270
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:00,839
I had others tell me the same thing I

1271
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:02,760
was just curious because I don't think I

1272
00:48:07,069 --> 00:48:04,440
heard anybody mentioned in in the

1273
00:48:09,890 --> 00:48:07,079
presentation I was just uh I was just

1274
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:09,900
curious that that had come up yeah we've

1275
00:48:13,730 --> 00:48:12,000
had people who said they thought there

1276
00:48:16,849 --> 00:48:13,740
were portals there but you know I would

1277
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:16,859
I wouldn't know I mean

1278
00:48:22,450 --> 00:48:19,020
you probably got enough going on there

1279
00:48:25,370 --> 00:48:22,460
you knew any portals opening up

1280
00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:25,380
but I know downstairs uh in that little

1281
00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:28,500
dark bedroom uh uh there's a window and

1282
00:48:31,849 --> 00:48:30,060
it's got green blinds on it you know

1283
00:48:34,250 --> 00:48:31,859
just blinds and I walked down the hall

1284
00:48:36,410 --> 00:48:34,260
one day and there were bottles of light

1285
00:48:37,849 --> 00:48:36,420
all around the Buns just covered the

1286
00:48:39,710 --> 00:48:37,859
whole winter just balls are like balls

1287
00:48:41,450 --> 00:48:39,720
like and I had never seen that before

1288
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:41,460
and I was it was daytime and I was in

1289
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:43,200
there by myself but I wasn't afraid uh

1290
00:48:45,770 --> 00:48:44,520
and so I just whenever I did all the

1291
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:45,780
things I was gonna do and I walked back

1292
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:47,220
in there and it was still there and so I

1293
00:48:49,609 --> 00:48:48,240
thought no you know there's nothing

1294
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,619
Electric in here there's nothing that

1295
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:51,359
anything could reflect off of and I

1296
00:48:54,109 --> 00:48:52,859
thought oh I think I'll go outside and

1297
00:48:56,990 --> 00:48:54,119
see if there's anything from outside

1298
00:48:58,250 --> 00:48:57,000
shining in so I went outside and the

1299
00:48:59,690 --> 00:48:58,260
same thing there were those balls of

1300
00:49:02,270 --> 00:48:59,700
light just dark and all the way around

1301
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:02,280
the window uh just just fast and then

1302
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,900
occasionally one would shoot off to the

1303
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,520
side and come back and shoot off the

1304
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:07,920
other side and uh

1305
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:10,440
I I don't know what that was but I do

1306
00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,359
know that my neighbor Aaron she moved

1307
00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:13,920
there when she was five and she said

1308
00:49:17,569 --> 00:49:16,020
yeah she told everybody that the house

1309
00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:17,579
was haunted and she said one of the

1310
00:49:20,450 --> 00:49:19,140
first things that she saw was when she

1311
00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:20,460
was little she'd walk her dogs out in

1312
00:49:23,690 --> 00:49:22,140
her backyard and uh they would look over

1313
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:23,700
at the house and start barking she'd

1314
00:49:27,710 --> 00:49:24,839
look over there and she said she'd see

1315
00:49:30,190 --> 00:49:27,720
blue balls outside that uh window of

1316
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,200
bottles of light and so um I don't know

1317
00:49:35,569 --> 00:49:32,640
thing but I don't know what it was but

1318
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,579
but we both got off the blue lights or

1319
00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:37,680
she you know I think she said hers are

1320
00:49:40,130 --> 00:49:39,300
more like whitish blue but mine were

1321
00:49:43,370 --> 00:49:40,140
blue

1322
00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:43,380
I I think Aaron is a an important part

1323
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:45,660
of the show I really do it because uh

1324
00:49:50,150 --> 00:49:47,460
she kind of corroborates a lot of what

1325
00:49:51,829 --> 00:49:50,160
has gone on the past and the fact that

1326
00:49:54,349 --> 00:49:51,839
she did go out there in the back with

1327
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,359
you all and you documented it I mean she

1328
00:50:04,010 --> 00:49:57,599
was physically affected by it

1329
00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:05,870
she was out but I think I think she's

1330
00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:07,740
got some abilities but I think she hides

1331
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:09,910
from that too

1332
00:50:14,329 --> 00:50:11,339
[Music]

1333
00:50:17,690 --> 00:50:14,339
has there been any other activity in the

1334
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:17,700
house like uh dragging sounds Furniture

1335
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:20,460
being moved that didn't make the cut on

1336
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:33,530
that yeah

1337
00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:36,290
did you at any uh point in in the

1338
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,740
investigation when any of this was going

1339
00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:39,119
on did you ever think that it could be

1340
00:50:44,510 --> 00:50:41,660
an extraterrestrial or or

1341
00:50:46,430 --> 00:50:44,520
interdimensional presence I did because

1342
00:50:48,470 --> 00:50:46,440
you know when that most terrifying

1343
00:50:50,569 --> 00:50:48,480
experience of that tunnel of life you

1344
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:50,579
know my all things my head I thought is

1345
00:50:54,049 --> 00:50:52,020
this religious experience because I had

1346
00:50:56,450 --> 00:50:54,059
read about people you know in prayer

1347
00:50:58,910 --> 00:50:56,460
something that's right I thought but if

1348
00:51:00,530 --> 00:50:58,920
it did and then I thought was it UFO

1349
00:51:02,329 --> 00:51:00,540
because I had read about tunnels of

1350
00:51:03,829 --> 00:51:02,339
light and people you know maybe despair

1351
00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,839
I thought about that and then I thought

1352
00:51:07,730 --> 00:51:05,640
is it some sort of Wormhole where

1353
00:51:09,170 --> 00:51:07,740
something is coming in from uh tell

1354
00:51:11,390 --> 00:51:09,180
another [\h__\h] everything I could think

1355
00:51:13,549 --> 00:51:11,400
of went through my mind but I definitely

1356
00:51:16,069 --> 00:51:13,559
gave that some thought a first

1357
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:16,079
impression I don't know

1358
00:51:21,049 --> 00:51:19,020
you know it's been my experience and and

1359
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:21,059
other investigators I've been involved

1360
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,180
with that you mentioned the blue orbs

1361
00:51:29,569 --> 00:51:27,359
that many times the blue orbs seem to be

1362
00:51:33,950 --> 00:51:29,579
associated with non-terrestrial beings

1363
00:51:35,630 --> 00:51:33,960
oh my God yeah yeah I I that's

1364
00:51:37,609 --> 00:51:35,640
interesting you stated that because I

1365
00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:37,619
don't think I heard anything in the show

1366
00:51:40,030 --> 00:51:39,180
itself

1367
00:51:42,290 --> 00:51:40,040
yeah

1368
00:51:43,790 --> 00:51:42,300
because we didn't have it on tag you

1369
00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:43,800
know they're real careful to not put

1370
00:51:47,930 --> 00:51:45,960
stuff that we didn't have document and I

1371
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:47,940
understand that too but yeah yeah yeah

1372
00:51:52,549 --> 00:51:50,700
with that oh yeah and then uh John

1373
00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:52,559
remember that just wrestling we had we

1374
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,640
were there with several people in

1375
00:51:58,250 --> 00:51:55,920
discussion and there were this it looked

1376
00:51:59,930 --> 00:51:58,260
like blue flames just shot out from the

1377
00:52:01,549 --> 00:51:59,940
floor close to the by it's close to the

1378
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:01,559
floor and it was uh it looked like

1379
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,839
electronic flange it was back about two

1380
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:05,400
feet about three feet it was just

1381
00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:07,260
electronic flights and there were like

1382
00:52:10,609 --> 00:52:09,300
several people there who saw that so I

1383
00:52:12,049 --> 00:52:10,619
got them down to write their name down

1384
00:52:14,030 --> 00:52:12,059
in their number in case we ever need to

1385
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:14,040
contact them but it but it the cameras

1386
00:52:17,030 --> 00:52:15,359
didn't pick it up because it was too

1387
00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:17,040
close to the floor we didn't have the

1388
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:18,660
cameras like that but that was one

1389
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:19,980
instance of blue light and then that

1390
00:52:23,569 --> 00:52:22,079
other pulsing like I didn't tell us

1391
00:52:25,790 --> 00:52:23,579
about that but uh there was a blue

1392
00:52:27,950 --> 00:52:25,800
pulsing light upstairs and it was

1393
00:52:29,630 --> 00:52:27,960
shooting beams out the light you know

1394
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:29,640
down through the stairs when I came in

1395
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:31,859
upstairs I could see it up there so I

1396
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,559
had experience with blue eyes

1397
00:52:39,770 --> 00:52:37,440
hmm I'm interested to see what happens

1398
00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:39,780
in the future with this investigation

1399
00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:41,940
because and I hope you do

1400
00:52:48,349 --> 00:52:46,140
uh going further on with it uh I I kind

1401
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:48,359
of had I told this I was kind of hoping

1402
00:52:53,569 --> 00:52:50,940
that maybe they will be further

1403
00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:53,579
investigations and presentations as to

1404
00:52:59,030 --> 00:52:57,180
what you guys are involved with there

1405
00:53:00,589 --> 00:52:59,040
um and hopefully you'll something will

1406
00:53:02,510 --> 00:53:00,599
come up that kind of gives us a better

1407
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:02,520
indication what's going on

1408
00:53:08,089 --> 00:53:05,760
well I hope so I talked to Kendall and

1409
00:53:10,130 --> 00:53:08,099
Steve about that tell them y'all like

1410
00:53:13,130 --> 00:53:10,140
women like that I would too I mean I'd

1411
00:53:14,650 --> 00:53:13,140
like to find I'd like to just explore

1412
00:53:18,049 --> 00:53:14,660
and tell you know something else

1413
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:18,059
important as well yeah and it was neat

1414
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:21,119
to have you know again Kendall Vera

1415
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:23,280
Steve just their brains worked really

1416
00:53:27,349 --> 00:53:24,720
well with everything they did with the

1417
00:53:29,930 --> 00:53:27,359
first film but the second film bringing

1418
00:53:31,430 --> 00:53:29,940
in Dustin party which is well well

1419
00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:31,440
respected in the field and then

1420
00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:33,720
Elizabeth Saint which is a genius you

1421
00:53:37,190 --> 00:53:35,160
know she's an electrical engineer and

1422
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:37,200
creates stuff but she's good to have

1423
00:53:41,690 --> 00:53:39,960
them oh she's awesome but just you know

1424
00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:41,700
if you watch the second film The the

1425
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,260
stuff they did in the crawl space with

1426
00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:45,359
the with the playing cards and you know

1427
00:53:51,109 --> 00:53:48,660
these are outside people and again you

1428
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,119
cannot make things happen but it's like

1429
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:53,280
every time it's something really

1430
00:53:59,150 --> 00:53:57,119
important occurs the house helps us you

1431
00:54:01,069 --> 00:53:59,160
know like with Steve you know he has a

1432
00:54:03,589 --> 00:54:01,079
phobia of flying so Steve does not fly

1433
00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:03,599
anywhere and he lives way away from

1434
00:54:08,329 --> 00:54:05,819
Mississippi so the first time he came

1435
00:54:09,530 --> 00:54:08,339
down he walks in the house and Alice

1436
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:09,540
what did he say when he walked in the

1437
00:54:13,910 --> 00:54:11,520
house he said

1438
00:54:16,250 --> 00:54:13,920
Steve Gonzales I don't want to hurt your

1439
00:54:18,349 --> 00:54:16,260
feelings but I'm here to try to find a

1440
00:54:20,329 --> 00:54:18,359
natural explanation for anything that

1441
00:54:23,450 --> 00:54:20,339
happens that you think is abnormal the

1442
00:54:25,010 --> 00:54:23,460
chandelier turned out the chandelier it

1443
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:25,020
did

1444
00:54:28,370 --> 00:54:26,880
so you know there you can see him

1445
00:54:31,370 --> 00:54:28,380
thinking and so he said why do you think

1446
00:54:33,589 --> 00:54:31,380
it did that I looked at John and and he

1447
00:54:35,329 --> 00:54:33,599
said because he's it's skeptic you know

1448
00:54:37,309 --> 00:54:35,339
they wanted to show him you know and so

1449
00:54:38,690 --> 00:54:37,319
I said that you know and then he went to

1450
00:54:40,670 --> 00:54:38,700
the stairs because he didn't seen the

1451
00:54:42,829 --> 00:54:40,680
film of the balls dropping for no reason

1452
00:54:44,030 --> 00:54:42,839
and and it's it's hard to move a bottle

1453
00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:44,040
of stairs it really is you're like

1454
00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:46,020
carpet too it was heavy but anyway so

1455
00:54:49,549 --> 00:54:47,700
here's the thing about that he literally

1456
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:49,559
literally got up and he said I'm going

1457
00:54:53,089 --> 00:54:51,359
to start this again and he got up and he

1458
00:54:54,950 --> 00:54:53,099
went outside and he came back in and he

1459
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,960
said exactly same thing he said I'm

1460
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,400
Steve Gonzalez and I don't want to hurt

1461
00:54:59,450 --> 00:54:58,319
your feelings but but anything that I

1462
00:55:01,190 --> 00:54:59,460
find here I'm going to try to find the

1463
00:55:02,510 --> 00:55:01,200
national explanation for the light

1464
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:02,520
turned off again the chandelier turned

1465
00:55:08,210 --> 00:55:04,740
off again so he checked everything he

1466
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,220
Rotator switch he wouldn't shake the Box

1467
00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:11,040
and then he was gone I you know he lived

1468
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:12,660
in Massachusetts about three days I

1469
00:55:16,130 --> 00:55:14,160
don't think it was much longer than that

1470
00:55:18,109 --> 00:55:16,140
when he called back and he said I'd like

1471
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:18,119
to come back and we said yes we'd like

1472
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,640
you to come back it's it's one of those

1473
00:55:25,250 --> 00:55:22,559
things when Steve can't find a rational

1474
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:25,260
answer and you see it in the end of the

1475
00:55:29,510 --> 00:55:27,599
house in between the first film when the

1476
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,520
door closed and you can see like he's

1477
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:31,200
staring at the monitor his little it's

1478
00:55:35,630 --> 00:55:33,420
like the little mouse on the wheel is

1479
00:55:37,309 --> 00:55:35,640
turning so like when he could when he

1480
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:37,319
couldn't figure it out but I mean it's

1481
00:55:42,589 --> 00:55:39,540
it's just it's a blessing and it's it's

1482
00:55:45,230 --> 00:55:42,599
amazing but again it's like I feel like

1483
00:55:47,329 --> 00:55:45,240
whatever is conscious and intelligent

1484
00:55:49,010 --> 00:55:47,339
there understands because we verbalized

1485
00:55:51,049 --> 00:55:49,020
it before it came don't we're going to

1486
00:55:52,609 --> 00:55:51,059
tell you that we did we talk in the

1487
00:55:54,410 --> 00:55:52,619
house like we're talking to your

1488
00:55:56,329 --> 00:55:54,420
children upstairs we're letting the

1489
00:55:58,010 --> 00:55:56,339
house the spirits know hey this is

1490
00:56:00,109 --> 00:55:58,020
important we have this going on we're

1491
00:56:02,270 --> 00:56:00,119
trying to help tell your story what can

1492
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:02,280
we do to help you and we verbalize it

1493
00:56:07,490 --> 00:56:06,000
all the time and then when it happens we

1494
00:56:09,410 --> 00:56:07,500
get you know we get the help that we

1495
00:56:11,270 --> 00:56:09,420
need so you know when when you're doing

1496
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:11,280
a documentary

1497
00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:12,720
um you know you don't have a long time

1498
00:56:18,890 --> 00:56:15,180
to do this this is very short very

1499
00:56:22,430 --> 00:56:18,900
concise so for for what happened

1500
00:56:24,890 --> 00:56:22,440
in the first film you know Ken Welton is

1501
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:24,900
a genius and his wife is amazing as well

1502
00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,599
but and Kendall was uh cameraman on

1503
00:56:31,730 --> 00:56:29,280
ghost hunters for years and years so

1504
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:31,740
Kendall's been to over 500 locations I

1505
00:56:36,530 --> 00:56:34,140
believe maybe more than that but it was

1506
00:56:38,510 --> 00:56:36,540
just neat it's like the house is like

1507
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:38,520
just kind of like smirking because

1508
00:56:44,030 --> 00:56:42,180
candles never had

1509
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:44,040
experience happened like he had on the

1510
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,599
first film when he was walking when they

1511
00:56:49,150 --> 00:56:47,520
were packing stuff up the ball came down

1512
00:56:52,430 --> 00:56:49,160
that was right

1513
00:56:55,130 --> 00:56:52,440
and again it's a it's a coincidence

1514
00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,140
until it's not that happened right in

1515
00:56:59,150 --> 00:56:57,359
front of his face yeah I mean inches

1516
00:57:00,470 --> 00:56:59,160
away from him you can see him hopping

1517
00:57:02,690 --> 00:57:00,480
and skipping like he was like a little

1518
00:57:04,790 --> 00:57:02,700
top you know he was a child again yeah

1519
00:57:07,190 --> 00:57:04,800
so it just you know there's things like

1520
00:57:10,130 --> 00:57:07,200
they happen over and over again so

1521
00:57:11,870 --> 00:57:10,140
there's something special here and like

1522
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:11,880
you said we just got to keep digging and

1523
00:57:17,030 --> 00:57:14,520
be patient and figure it out

1524
00:57:19,549 --> 00:57:17,040
you know I I think the most satisfying

1525
00:57:22,190 --> 00:57:19,559
thing about working with Skeptics is

1526
00:57:24,530 --> 00:57:22,200
when you had that rare opportunity they

1527
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,540
have an experience and then the light

1528
00:57:28,130 --> 00:57:26,400
bulb goes off with them and they then

1529
00:57:31,309 --> 00:57:28,140
they start questioning their own their

1530
00:57:34,609 --> 00:57:31,319
own you know their own thoughts about

1531
00:57:37,010 --> 00:57:34,619
you know what this actually is I've had

1532
00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:37,020
that happen so many times I mean I it's

1533
00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:40,440
interesting but uh in cases where

1534
00:57:44,270 --> 00:57:42,300
somebody will be there they're going to

1535
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:44,280
be naysaying everything then something

1536
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:47,520
happens to them and you know

1537
00:57:53,450 --> 00:57:50,400
yeah that and that's when I became an

1538
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:53,460
investigator smoking mirrors was my my

1539
00:57:57,650 --> 00:57:55,200
team name that I came up with and I do

1540
00:57:59,630 --> 00:57:57,660
marketing as a day job so uh this is

1541
00:58:02,210 --> 00:57:59,640
back in 2008 I knew that you know the

1542
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:02,220
stuff that I'd seen is like what my goal

1543
00:58:06,410 --> 00:58:04,020
was I knew this was real I had

1544
00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:06,420
experiences myself so I wanted to be

1545
00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:08,460
able to document clean clear evidence

1546
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,740
you know keep it 15 to 30 seconds

1547
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:12,480
whether it's audio whether it's video

1548
00:58:17,089 --> 00:58:14,760
put it out and just took it they could

1549
00:58:19,010 --> 00:58:17,099
see somebody not on TV and just kind of

1550
00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:19,020
experience click look that's cool and

1551
00:58:22,730 --> 00:58:21,000
move on because this was important to me

1552
00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:22,740
it's really special to me and I wanted

1553
00:58:27,049 --> 00:58:24,540
to be able to touch more people to see

1554
00:58:28,730 --> 00:58:27,059
what we actually do and I think that's

1555
00:58:30,589 --> 00:58:28,740
important and you know that's kind of a

1556
00:58:32,210 --> 00:58:30,599
double-edged sword with obviously some

1557
00:58:34,790 --> 00:58:32,220
of the shows on TV are dramatic and this

1558
00:58:36,710 --> 00:58:34,800
and the other however however they've

1559
00:58:38,569 --> 00:58:36,720
they've also done a favor to us because

1560
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:38,579
they brought it into pop culture it

1561
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,520
really made it more uh acceptable and

1562
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:43,440
and reached out to more people to kind

1563
00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,839
of see what we do so it's a again it's a

1564
00:58:48,829 --> 00:58:47,280
double-edged sword it's a blessing and a

1565
00:58:51,950 --> 00:58:48,839
curse of the same time

1566
00:58:53,630 --> 00:58:51,960
so uh Alice and John knew why don't you

1567
00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:53,640
tell us

1568
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:56,099
any final thoughts you have on this what

1569
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:58,319
you expect in the future what you plan

1570
00:59:02,510 --> 00:58:59,760
on doing

1571
00:59:07,730 --> 00:59:02,520
with the location and uh you know

1572
00:59:07,740 --> 00:59:11,329
concrete

1573
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:15,710
something uh I want it open so that

1574
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:18,960
some Explorations can be made and I

1575
00:59:23,450 --> 00:59:20,640
think I'm thinking that it may be more

1576
00:59:26,829 --> 00:59:23,460
along scientific lines you know but I

1577
00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,609
String Theory things like that because

1578
00:59:32,450 --> 00:59:30,720
it says they're readily all those things

1579
00:59:33,710 --> 00:59:32,460
that we've experienced are possible well

1580
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:33,720
we know they're possible because we've

1581
00:59:36,950 --> 00:59:35,160
seen them but they're but that means

1582
00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:36,960
they're probably at some point in the

1583
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:39,780
future will be an explanation and I just

1584
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:48,589
how about it John what do you think

1585
00:59:54,109 --> 00:59:52,319
well you know this has taken quite a

1586
00:59:56,089 --> 00:59:54,119
long time to kind of document all the

1587
00:59:57,010 --> 00:59:56,099
things that we have but

1588
01:00:00,349 --> 00:59:57,020
um

1589
01:00:03,289 --> 01:00:00,359
there is an answer a definitive answer

1590
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,299
uh to kind of help us uncover

1591
01:00:07,250 --> 01:00:05,640
who is attached to the property you know

1592
01:00:10,010 --> 01:00:07,260
because I do think there's a root cause

1593
01:00:11,750 --> 01:00:10,020
to what's happening here and with the

1594
01:00:14,030 --> 01:00:11,760
second film you know we're blessed to be

1595
01:00:15,950 --> 01:00:14,040
able to get the excavator and dig and

1596
01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:15,960
you know but the thing with that is the

1597
01:00:19,910 --> 01:00:17,880
reality of it is you know we had a

1598
01:00:21,289 --> 01:00:19,920
certain amount of time to do that and

1599
01:00:23,089 --> 01:00:21,299
even though we were digging a hole right

1600
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,099
here three inches to the left could have

1601
01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,440
been our answer so it just takes time

1602
01:00:30,530 --> 01:00:27,839
yeah so it just takes time to do that so

1603
01:00:32,089 --> 01:00:30,540
I think just be methodical I mean hell I

1604
01:00:34,370 --> 01:00:32,099
mean we we've been doing this for over a

1605
01:00:36,289 --> 01:00:34,380
decade so I'm fine doing this and

1606
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:36,299
continuing the journey because you know

1607
01:00:40,970 --> 01:00:38,640
one of my favorite things like you said

1608
01:00:44,870 --> 01:00:40,980
we've had tours at the house for years

1609
01:00:47,510 --> 01:00:44,880
and to see somebody's first paranormal

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01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:47,520
experience to genuinely see like their

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01:00:50,809 --> 01:00:49,500
eyes just kind of glaze over to try to

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01:00:53,990 --> 01:00:50,819
like rationalize what they've

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01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,000
experienced it's neat to see that so

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01:00:59,030 --> 01:00:55,920
um to continue you know continue to

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01:01:01,010 --> 01:00:59,040
capture the EVPs the voices and find the

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01:01:02,270 --> 01:01:01,020
root calls you know there's a full body

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01:01:04,089 --> 01:01:02,280
Apparition that's what's going to happen

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01:01:06,770 --> 01:01:04,099
I'm just going to say there we go

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01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,780
that's what we want right there we go

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01:01:10,670 --> 01:01:08,400
it's gonna be it's going to

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01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:10,680
be Eric Allen Lily and Erica have come

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01:01:14,809 --> 01:01:13,020
down the stairs they're gonna wave and

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01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:14,819
uh yeah that's what we're gonna do we're

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01:01:18,890 --> 01:01:16,319
gonna attack we're gonna tap into it

1625
01:01:21,530 --> 01:01:18,900
well Alice I do want to make one more

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01:01:22,789 --> 01:01:21,540
comment before we go I think Ashley has

1627
01:01:23,930 --> 01:01:22,799
a lot to do with what's going to happen

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01:01:26,510 --> 01:01:23,940
in the future

1629
01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:26,520
oh that's so interesting I'd really love

1630
01:01:29,750 --> 01:01:28,079
to talk to you just sometime about all

1631
01:01:32,030 --> 01:01:29,760
that I really would well I'm you know

1632
01:01:33,730 --> 01:01:32,040
anytime if you want to contact me

1633
01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:33,740
anytime

1634
01:01:41,809 --> 01:01:38,040
so okay well the the the films are the

1635
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:41,819
house in between part one and two I I

1636
01:01:47,390 --> 01:01:44,579
think you can get them free on 2B and

1637
01:01:49,130 --> 01:01:47,400
Pluto that's where I got it at uh I

1638
01:01:51,010 --> 01:01:49,140
think we're on my Facebook right now too

1639
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:51,020
if you guys go oh okay

1640
01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:54,720
yeah so uh I suggest Anybody Everybody

1641
01:01:58,670 --> 01:01:56,880
watches it's very interesting it's a lot

1642
01:02:01,010 --> 01:01:58,680
there to unpack

1643
01:02:03,349 --> 01:02:01,020
uh but I think there's a lot more that

1644
01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:03,359
can can happen and be part of a maybe

1645
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:08,220
third part of it and uh yeah you know uh

1646
01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:10,200
Alice John please keep in contact with

1647
01:02:15,289 --> 01:02:13,020
me I I would really like to know what

1648
01:02:17,690 --> 01:02:15,299
happens in the future if anything comes

1649
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:17,700
up you need maybe you want to talk about

1650
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:20,160
something I'm always available

1651
01:02:26,089 --> 01:02:22,440
well that's nice and I'm I stay in touch

1652
01:02:29,210 --> 01:02:26,099
with Vincent online with friends

1653
01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:29,220
and so yeah you can contact me anytime

1654
01:02:34,609 --> 01:02:31,980
you want to for me okay well thanks for

1655
01:02:36,950 --> 01:02:34,619
coming on and uh you you'll have a great

1656
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,960
weekend and uh I'll talk to you soon

1657
01:02:40,730 --> 01:02:39,119
hopefully okay all right thank you all

1658
01:02:42,829 --> 01:02:40,740
so much we appreciate y'all thank y'all

1659
01:02:44,510 --> 01:02:42,839
yeah thank you guys so much you did a

1660
01:02:45,890 --> 01:02:44,520
great job with your presentation with

1661
01:02:47,990 --> 01:02:45,900
those documentaries I would like to say

1662
01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:48,000
that you guys want to see this this is

1663
01:02:53,150 --> 01:02:51,180
two really good documentaries this is a

1664
01:02:55,250 --> 01:02:53,160
scientific approach to it they don't

1665
01:02:57,530 --> 01:02:55,260
think it's demons or anything like that

1666
01:02:59,329 --> 01:02:57,540
this is the real deal but thank you guys

1667
01:03:02,089 --> 01:02:59,339
so much for coming out tonight yeah so

1668
01:03:03,829 --> 01:03:02,099
so watch watch go watch Halloween uh

1669
01:03:05,150 --> 01:03:03,839
ends get disappointed and then come

1670
01:03:07,010 --> 01:03:05,160
watch the house in between one and two

1671
01:03:08,770 --> 01:03:07,020
there you go

1672
01:03:11,809 --> 01:03:08,780
laughs

1673
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:11,819
okay you all take care thank you thank

1674
01:03:19,309 --> 01:03:17,150
now uh if you have a citing or counter

1675
01:03:21,410 --> 01:03:19,319
report that you'd like to be considered

1676
01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:21,420
for the personal report show or post on

1677
01:03:25,309 --> 01:03:23,099
families and monsters feel free to

1678
01:03:27,410 --> 01:03:25,319
contact me at my email at lawn Stricker

1679
01:03:30,230 --> 01:03:27,420
fans of monsters.com

1680
01:03:32,390 --> 01:03:30,240
uh I want to again thank Our Guest Alice

1681
01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:32,400
Jackson and John board for joining me

1682
01:03:36,470 --> 01:03:34,319
this evening

1683
01:03:39,349 --> 01:03:36,480
um and thanks to each all you for

1684
01:03:41,230 --> 01:03:39,359
watching and chatting and and you know

1685
01:03:44,510 --> 01:03:41,240
presenting questions

1686
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:44,520
uh you know please like And subscribe

1687
01:03:50,690 --> 01:03:47,400
and share and also please leave comments

1688
01:03:52,670 --> 01:03:50,700
so next Wednesday we've got a we got a

1689
01:03:53,390 --> 01:03:52,680
special Wednesday show coming up next

1690
01:03:57,829 --> 01:03:53,400
week

1691
01:03:59,390 --> 01:03:57,839
at 9 00 p.m Eastern 6 p.m Pacific uh

1692
01:04:02,569 --> 01:03:59,400
Pennsylvania UFO and anomalies

1693
01:04:04,910 --> 01:04:02,579
investigator Stan Gordon will be joining

1694
01:04:07,069 --> 01:04:04,920
me so that's next Wednesday

1695
01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,079
then next Friday

1696
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,079
I will be joined by Matt hire act uh

1697
01:04:15,109 --> 01:04:12,960
Timothy Renner and Chad Renning

1698
01:04:18,289 --> 01:04:15,119
from uh fans of monsters Fortune

1699
01:04:21,410 --> 01:04:18,299
research team and we will be discussing

1700
01:04:23,450 --> 01:04:21,420
the French Creek Dog Man incident that

1701
01:04:24,710 --> 01:04:23,460
occurred this past spring in Berks

1702
01:04:27,890 --> 01:04:24,720
County Pennsylvania

1703
01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:27,900
uh Matt hyrek was the uh was the witness

1704
01:04:32,329 --> 01:04:30,540
he and his daughter uh this should be an

1705
01:04:35,030 --> 01:04:32,339
interesting interesting show so make

1706
01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:35,040
sure you join us for that so then until

1707
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:37,500
next week stay healthy and have a safe